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belinda66

Spread to ovaries question

Good morning,

My first post treatment scan revealed a suspicious mass at or near my left ovary. Had a blood test for ovarian cancer last week and urgent priority ultrasounds yesterday. The first US was an external one and the second was internal - embarrassing as she couldn't insert camera for ages due to my tension. She couldn't see the mass which she said was odd as it was 3-4cms and it could be hidden behind something, so I may have to go back.

Question is: can bowel cancer spread to the ovaries or is this more likely to be a new primary? No specific symptoms.

Thanks in advance.

Rach

@belinda66 my tumour was attached to my ovaries and when I had my tumour removed I had a hysterectomy too. My oncologist and surgeon thought it was in my best interests to remove the lot as they didn't want it to spread any further :x::x::x:

belinda66

Thank you for your quick reply @Rach and for sharing. Does that mean that the tumour you had was bowel cancer that had attached to the ovaries? Just seen that the nurses are not available now but it's always helpful to hear other people's experiences.

Just a few minutes ago got a call from the specialist nurse to say my case was discussed in meeting and radiologist sure there's nothing there now: could've been large cyst or lump which burst or dispersed. Still interested to know if ovaries can be where spread occurs.

Rach

@belinda66 yes, the bowel cancer had attached to the ovaries. I did have a big 26cm tumour and though it hadn't spread in the ovaries it was stuck to them. I assume it is possible for it to spread to the ovaries otherwise they wouldn't have given me a full hysterectomy. Their words were 'we don't want it to spread any further'. It's great news that your scan was clear :x::x::x:

Baxter2

Hi @belinda66 Similar to @Rach, my recurrence at site of original join in colon was stuck to my right ureter and appeared to be stuck to my cervix so a decision was made to do a full hysterectomy when in theatre as well as the planned removal of kidney and ureter. The histology report confirmed uterus, ovaries and ureter were unaffected but nothing was left to chance. This was not clear from scans, only during surgery. You may well have a similar thing going on? ❤️💛💙💜💚

blueorchid

dear @belinda66 I was diagnosed with one very large ovarian metastases from the bowel in 2015. A year later it came back in the other ovary. ovarian metastases are rarer than liver or lung mets but they do happen especially in younger women. I had successful resections of it on both occasions.

Good to hear that your radiologist doesnt see anything there now.

belinda66

@blueorchid

Thanks for reply. I hadn't realised about a spread to the ovaries - got too fixated on lungs and liver. I am not a younger woman at nearly 60 so don't know how likely it is for this to happen. This surveillance follow-up is very stressful.

gun-dog-lass

Hi @belinda66 when i was first diagnosed they did ct scan to check for spread and i was told it looked like the tumour had attached to my left ovary. He said he wouldnt know for sure untill surgey which i had 8 days after diagnosis. If that was the case he would take the ovary as well.
Thankfully it wasnt attached :x::x:

Stellar

Hi @belinda66 . Hope things are well. Just because you were asking I have ovarian metastases, I think like you it is was,a surprise to hear that area was involved as there is more focus on spread to other areas. Wasn't there when first diagnosed in Aug 2015 only (i say only) had liver metasteses originally. It's good that these things are being looked at closely by your team though. From what I've heard can be reasonably treatable so I'll hope along with you that's the case with you :x:

Pitstop

Hi @belinda66, I had mets in both of my ovaries, but had them successfully removed & had a full hysterectomy too, so it seems that bowel cancer does tend to sometimes spread there. Good luck, I hope they come up with a solution for you 😊 :x::x::x:

Charlotte Nurse Advisor

Dear @belinda66,

Apologies for the delay but I see you have had some good replies from others.

In some cases the primary bowel tumour can grow through the bowel wall and attached itself to the uterus or ovaries. This is not referred to as 'secondaries' as it is direct growth/attachment of the tumour to another organ. Ovarian secondaries from a bowel cancer are rare but as others mentioned can happen. Secondaries of the liver, lungs and peritoneum are more usual sites.

I see from your earlier post that a recent scan has not shown anything now which is reassuring. When are they planning to scan you again?

Kind regards,

Charlotte

belinda66

Not sure, think they only do annual scans.

Charlotte Nurse Advisor

Dear @belinda66,

I would be inclined to ask if they are planning on either doing this sooner or maybe a different type of scan? You mention that the person performing the scan was unable to identify the mass that was seen previously - what is there intention to follow this up?

Kind regards,

Charlotte

belinda66
Quote from @Charlotte Nurse Advisor:
Dear @belinda66,

I would be inclined to ask if they are planning on either doing this sooner or maybe a different type of scan? You mention that the person performing the scan was unable to identify the mass that was seen previously - what is there intention to follow this up?

Kind regards,

Charlotte

Hello Charlotte

I might not have made it clear but I got a phone call the next day from the specialist nurse who said the radiologist had looked at the images and was satisfied that the mass must have been a lump or cyst that had burst and that nothing was there.

Charlotte Nurse Advisor

Oh I see. Sorry I didn't pick up on that.
That's reassuring then.

Kind regards

Charlotte